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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
Wednesday, December 14, 199e
The special meeting of the Atascadero City Council and Planning
Commission was called to order at 7 p .m. at the Prather Building
by Mayor Borgeson. It was immediately adjourned to the National
Guard Armory where the meeting reconvened at 7: 15 p .m. followed
by the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL:
Present : Council members Dexter , Shiers, Lilley, Mackey and Mayor
Borgeson
I Commissioners Luna , Highland , Lopez Balbontin, Waage,
Brusher , Tobey and Chairperson Lochridge
Staff Present : Henry Engen, Community Development Director ; Paul
Sensibaugh , Public Works Director ; Mike Hicks,
Fire Chief; Ray Windsor , City Manager ; Mark
Joseph , Administrative Services Director and Boyd
Sharitz , City Clerk .
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1 . PUBLIC HEARING ON THE. PROPOSED EXTENSION OF HIGHWAY 41
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Council and Commissioners introduced themselves. Ray
Windsor , City Manager , introduced staff and the Cal Trans
Representative, Jerry Hanto , Deputy District Director- ,
Project Development and Construction.
Mayon Borgeson discussed the rules of participation for the
evening ' s discussion. Speakers will be limited to three
minutes unless they are spokesperson for a group in which -
ease it will be 5 minutes .
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Henry Engen, Community Development Director , gave the staff
report ,
Mr . Hanto , Cal Trans Representative, reviewed Cal Trans '
written response to a letter from the City Manager , Ray
Windsor , to Cal Trans.
Council and commission comments followed .
Commissioner Brasher stated that clarification was needed
from Mr. Hanto regarding input from the public . At the
November 29th meeting , Austin Carlton from Carl Trans spoke
to the issue, he indicated that any input that the public
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developed up to and including this public hearing tonight
would be a part of the documentation. Yet evidently such is
not the case. She wanted to know exactly what is meant when
he speaks of consideration.
Mr . Hanto responded that he was not present at that hearing
so he could not say precisely what was said . It is his
understanding that it was understood by at least some
members of the audience that Cal Trans would keep the record
open until some future date that was unspecified . If the
record was kept open it would be included in the document as
part of the document itself.
Mayor- Borgeson read a transcript of the hearing of November
29th and Mr . Austin Carlton and he did not say he supposed
that the public comment would be kept open. He definitely
stated that we can take written documents beyond that date
to be included in the final document . He stated that it
seemed to him that Cal Trans can extend the time limit on
this environmental document . Another Public Hearing was
needed and saw no reason why Cal Trans can ' t accommodate
that . He further stated "Nie can extend the time of the
document" . Mayor Borgeson asked if Cal Trans position had
changed on this,
Mr . Hanto stated that Cal Trans will consider all of the
documentation but only include in their report that received
by December 1st .
Further discussion by Commission and Council members
followed . At this time Mayor Borgeson opened the meeting
for public comment .
Terry Graham, 6205 Conejo Road , commented that a special election
should be held to decide this matter .
Bob Ellison, attorney from Fresno , representing Ed Allred , spoke
against Alternate A and in favor of Alternate B. He asked
Council to request that Cal Trans prepare an EIR and that council
defer any decision until the entire environmental process has
been completed .
Eric Micheilssen, 5300 Aguila , spoke in favor of Alternate A.
Barbara Schoeneke, 7505 Marchant , stated that there is not enough
information for the City Council and the residents of Atascaderro
to make a proper choice. An EIR should be completed before a
decision is made by the council.
Bill Garcia, 1.0755 Atascadero Ave. , spoke in favor of Alternate
A.
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Dr . Anthony Avina presented to Council a copy of a resolution
passed by the Atascadero Unified School District Board of
Education in favor of Alternate A.
Mildred Copelan, 8610 Portola, stated she strongly supported
Alternate A.
Doug Sheffer , 8085 Carbaril , spoke in favor of Alternate A.
Jim Comes said he felt Alternate A is the only way to go.
Norm Canfield , 10690 San Marcos, President of the Atascadero
Board of Realtors, representing 170 members of the Board of
Realtors, spoke in favor of Alternate A.
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David Baker , Director of the North County Contractor ' s Assoc .
spoke representing 500 members of the Assoc . and stated that they
were in support of Alternate A.
Glen Lewis encourage the Council to act now -- don ' t wait any
longer .
John Cotsenmeyer , e705 Casanova Rd . , President of the Atascadero
Chamber of Commerce, and Vice President/Manager of Bank of
America in Atascadero . He stated that Highway 41 Alternate A
makes good business and economic sense and he strongly supports
Alternate A.
Al Gustafson, 9305 Curbaril , spoke regarding the truck traffic on
Curbaril Ave. and the growing dangers to school children on their
way to school . Give the trucks a safe and proper way to take and
maketheirlivelihood .
Gary Hoskins, 5140 Mercedes, asked Council to get more facts
before making a decision and wait for a full ElR.
Stephen LaSalle, 7505 Marchant , said that intelligent decisions
can not be made without adequate information. The people of
Atascadero deserve an ETR so that an intelligent, informed
decision may be made.
Ernie Porter , 9420 Marchant Way, spoke in favor of Alternate A
but not without question. He questioned the destruction of the
Heilmann Bridge and asked that it not be destroyed .
Alyce Porter , 9420 Marchant Way, said she was in support of
Alternate A with the reservation that there should be a
cloverleaf on the other side of the railroad near the county
facility on Sycamore.
Daniel Heilmann, 3005 River Rd . , spoke in favor of Alternate A.
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Mr . Kellerman read a letter on behalf of Joan O ' Keefe, 9985 Old
Morro Rd . East . requesting the City Council members to be
futuristic and to have the moral integrity to make independent
decisions that will benefit the greatest number of residents.
Craig Monn said he felt that the Council did not have the
information available to them. He supported Alternate B and
asked that a special election be held to solve this issue.
Mrs . Paul McGill , 5100 Mercedes Ave. , expressed her concerns
regarding the traffic and pollution.
Peter Boonisar , 521:2 Magdalena Ave. , spoke in opposition to
Alternate A and asked Council to get a complete EIR.
Tom Hatchell , 5385 Barrenda, expressed support of Alternate A as
the most direct and feasible alternative to the present
conditions.
Bill Blankenship , 6905 Country Club Dr . , stated that he has had
his house up for sale for two years . He was in support for
Alternate A if for no other reason so that something can be done
so that he can possibly sell his house.
Dorothy McNeil , e765 Sierra Vista Rd . , stated that Cal Trans
motives must be called into question. Their refusal to back:
their own representative ' s assurance that letters and petitions
would be included in the document makes their motives seem clear .
Cal Trans knows that the guidelines requires an EIR if there is
an out pouring of public concern. Cal Trans does not want
letters and petitions of over 1 ,000 people to reach Sacramento as
part of the document . Neither A nor B really appeals to her .
She strongly urged the Council to call for an EIR so that they
can consider this matter with adequate information.
Jerry Bond , 4844 El Verano, said this is in the General Plan---
let ' s follow it . He is in support of Alternate A.
John McNeil , 8765 Sierra Vista, stated that no decision should be
made by this Council on this project until they have a competent ,
thorough traffic analysis. Traffic is THE problem of Atascadero
and has been for years.
Gary Larson, 49 Quail Ridge, stated that he strongly supports
Alternate A as a major funded circulation improvement of great
benefit to the community.
Celia Moss, 8040 Coromar Rd , asked Council to pay attention to
the wishes of the citizens of Atascadero and said that she
opposes Alternative A unless an EIR which can justify to the
citizens of Atascadero why this project is warranted .
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Jay DeCou, 9200 Pino Solo , spoke in favor of Alternate A.
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John Himes, 8210 Carmelita, asked the Council to do what is good
for the majority of this City. He stated that he is in support
of Alternate A.
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Dennis Garret , 4300 Corr-izo , expressed his concerns of safety of
school children and said that Alternate A has been a part of the
General Plan for years and believes it is time to get on with it .
Ned Thompson, 5960 River- Rd . , said he was in favor- of Alternate
A.
Mayor Borgeson asked for a brief recess at 9:50. Meeting
reconvened at 10 p .m.
Brad Davis , 5497 Fresno , representing the Chamber- of Commerce and
460 local businesses said they are fully in support of Alternate
A and did not believe an EIR was necessary.
Jerry Clay, 7285 Sycamore Rd . , said he encouraged the Council to
take action now and get on with Alternate A. He believes an EIR
is a stall .
Robert Nimmo, 7375 Bella Vista Rd . , said that the Highway 41
issue is an issue of public safety and responsible and timely
planning for proper traffic control . He supports Alternate A.
Barbara Reiter , 10150 San Marcos Rd . , stated that she is not in
favor of either Alternate A or B, but Alternate C as proposed by
Doug Lewis .
David Duncan 8885 Marchant , said Alternate A is not acceptable.
An alternative that was omitted is to turn the present Highway
41 from Atascadero into Shandon over the County. Highway 41 can
be routed up 1.01 to Paso Robles and Highway 46. He asked the
City Council to reject Alternate A and require an EIR.
Chris Jespersen, 6890 Rocky Canyon Rd . , stated that he endorses
Alternate A and believes Council should live with the decision
that they made two years ago .
Mike Arrambide, 7243 Del Rio , President of Atascadero 2000 spoke
for members in support of Alternate A.
Marti Monn, 5385 Mercedes, staved she was in opposition to
Alternate A and would support Alternate B.
Gregory Mann, 7925 Santa Rosa Rd . , 7925 Santa Rosa Rd . , President
of Santa Rosa PTA, stated that he believed that the EIR spoken
about tonight is important and Alternate A presents the best
safety measure for our children and the community.
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Harry Ovitt , of San Miguel asked the Council to use caution to
protect all funding available to the City and to implement the
General Plan.
Carol. Ball , 7070 Marchant , spoke supporting Alternate A.
Eric Hagen, representative of the Downtown Business Improvement
Assoc . stated that the BIA is in support of Alterate A.
Jim Ha.rer , 4400 Templeton Rd . , spoke in support of Alternate A.
Anne Marie Kirkpatrick , 6291 Monterey Court , spoke representing
an Ad Hoc Committee which was formed in order to oppose Alternate
A. She presented the City Council with petitions signed opposing
Alternate A. She asked Council to withhold making a decision
pending an EIR.
Tom Collins, 8730 Casanova, asked Council to put or- hold until an
EIR is completed .
Fred Frank , 7755 Graves Creek Rd . , asked Council to re-evaluate
the Alternate A plan and press for an EIR before making a
decision.
Frank Bush , 4685 'Viscano Ave. , Vice-Chairperson of the Sierra
Club , spoke in support of Alternate B and asked that the Negative
Declaration be appealed because the initial study is inadequate.
MOTION: By Councilman Dexter , seconded by Councilwoman Mackey to
extend the meeting past 11 p .m. Passed unanimously.
John Bunyea, 4858 Templeton Rd . , spoke in opposition of Alternate
B mainly, because of safety.
Doug Marter , 10890 Santa Lucia, stated the old bridge is falling
down, and the money is available for a new bridge, the route from
the new bridge to the other traffic is the cleanest there is.
Let ' F, get it over with and get it over with .
Tim McCutcheon, stated we creed this project now. He asked the
Council to look ahead and get the _project started now.
Wayne L_aprade, 6505 San Gabriel Rd. , stated that he was in favor
of Alternate A and EIR ' s can be a-worthwhile tool , but also they
can be a problem.
William Collins, 4205 River Road , (Carousel Ranch ) said that when
you weight the loss of a child ' s life, the inconvenience to the
general public of the present traffic routes against his personal
loss of a few acres and privacy on his ranch , he said that he was
in favor- of Alternate A.
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Randi LaFollette, 53e5 Magnolia, spoke in opposition of Alternate
A and would like to see a full EIR done before a decision is
made.
Doug Lewis, said he wanted to address three issues: 1 ) serenity
(Atascadero Cemetary) 2) public safety 3) foresightedness .
Lorrenso Pace, 5190 Mercedes, spoke in opposition of Alternate A
and feels that an EIR is essential before a decision can be made
on the issue.
Carla Cole who lives on Mercedes Ave. , stated she was, in
opposition of Alternate A and requested that an EIR be done
before a decision is made.
Alan Volbrecht , who lives on Highway 41 , approximately 112 mile
east of the end of Alternate A said he hoped the City Council in
their consideration of this particular item will show their
support for Alternate A and show the same consistency with
interpretation of the General Plan that they have asked
development projects to bring in.
Bill Carroll , 5360 Ensenada Ave. , stated he supported Alternate
A.
Ursula Luna read a prepared statement for Dr . Timothy O ' Keefe
stating he was concerned that Cal Trans has failed to complete an
adequate EIR analysis for the proposed realignment of Hwy. 41 .
Linda Stewart , 5225 Magdalena Ave. , stated she was in favor of
Alternate B because of the traffic that would be caused by
Alternate A.
Jay Harris, 5365 Magnolia, said he was in opposition of Alternate
A.
Mark Goforth , lives on Templeton Rd . , spoke in favor of Alternate
B and an EIR study needs to be done before a decision can be made
on this project .
Doug Filipponi , 5995 River Road , asked council to look at the
staff recommendations and accept Alternate A.
Don Messer , 7555 Cristabol , spoke in favor- of Alternate A and
felt that an EIR was not necessary.
Sarah Gronstr-and , 7620 Del Rio Rd . , stated she was in opposition
to Alternate A.
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Livia Kellerman, 5463 Honda said she was against Alternate A.
She then read a prepared statement for Gidi Pullen, stating that
an EIR be prepared for this project before a decision can be
made.
Don Allaire spoke in favor of Alternate A.
Richard Kirkpatrick , 6291 Monterey Court , spoke in favor of an
EIR being done.
Diana Boswell , 5505 Bajada, stated she was strongly against Cal
Trans proposed plan Alternate A.
Ron DeCarli , Program Manager for the SLO Area Coordinating
Council , stated he wants Cal Trans to reopen comments for the
document . He said that a full EIR could be conducted , but it
would cause a 1 year delay that could jeopardize funding . Lack
of City support could eliminate the project given the 53.5
billion billion, Cal Trans funding shortfall .
Donna Harris, 5365 Magnolia Ave. , said she preferred Alternate B.
Melanie Billig , read a prepared statement opposing Alternate A
and asked that an EIR be completed before a decision is made.
Robert McNew, 4830 El Verano , spoke in support of Alternate A.
Mayor Borgeson read a statement from Herman Plew, 5395 Capistrano
Ave. , in support of Alternate A but does not want Magnolia and
Magdalena Streets to be connected to the new route because
Magnolia is just behind his house and the increased noise from
route traffic coming onto Magnolia would be very undesirable.
Ursula Luna, 10600 San Marcos Rd . , asked that an EIR be prepared
to assure the greatest sensitivity towards the residents, the
environment and the character of the City.
Raymond Jensen, 6655 Country Club Dr . , spoke in favor of
Alternate B.
MayorBorgeson read a prepared statement of Mike Kohle which
stated a complete EIR is needed before any decision can be made.
At this time Mayor Borgeson closed the meeting for public
comment and asked if there were any written statements or
petitions they should be given to the City Clerk at this time.
Council and Commission comments followed .
Motion: By Councilman Shiers to support a Full EIR. The motion
died for lack of a second .
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Motion: By Councilman Dexter , seconded by Mayor Borgeson to
reaffirm the City ' s position in respect to Alternate A
subject to an EIR. Motion passed unanimously by roll
call vote.
Meeting adjourned at 12:50 a.m.
MINUTES RECORDED BY:
BOYD C. SHARITZ, CITY CLERK:
PREPARED BY:
GEORGIA RAMIREZ, DEPUTY CITY CLERK