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MEETING DATE: 11/15/88
ATASCADERO CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES - SPECIAL MEETING
OCTOBER 27, 1988
The joint meeting of the City Council/Planning Commission was
called to order at 7 :00 p.m. by Mayor Borgeson, followed by the
Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL•
Present: Council members Dexter, Shiers, Lilley, Mackey and
Mayor Borgeson
Commissioners Luna, Highland, Lopez-Balbontin, Waage,
and Chairperson Lochridge
Absent: Commissioners Tobey (out of town on business) and
Brasher ( ill)
Staff Present: Ray Windsor, City Manager; Henry Engen, Community
Development Director; Steve DeCamp, Senior
Planner; Eric Porter, Assistant Planner; Paul
Sensibaugh, Public works Director
GENERAL PLAN UPDATE:
1 . Minutes of September 29, 1988 Joint Meeting.
Henry Engen noted that this was included in the packet as
background information from the last meeting and had been
approved by the City Council, but is open for comment.
George Luna clarified that on Page 5 of the minutes, he did
not think that 10,000 square foot lots should be an
alternative for multi-family zoning.
2 . Policy Direction Discussion.
A. Commercial Land Use - "Encouragement of nodes" over
strip development, ERR recommendations, re-evaluation
of number and character of commercial zoning
designations, e.g. , neighborhood centers, community
centers, office areas and tourist designations.
Mayor Borgeson opened the discussion by noting that this was
a continuation of the discussion begun on September 29,
1988, to give general policy direction to guide staff in
drafting an updated General Plan Henry Engen summarized
recommendations made by Economic Research Associates with
respect to General Plan and zoning. These included: not
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increasing commercially designated land use; creating a new
semipublic zone (which has been done) ; establishing one
tourist designation location pursuant to a specific plan;
encouraging establishment of a Craftsman Park; and encourag-
ing rural resort activities.
With respect to existing lack of encouragement for existing
nodes, it was noted that there are six commercial and two
industrial zones in the City, wherein key anchor uses are
allowed in most of said zones . For example: Super markets
are allowed in seven districts; these are primary tenants
for neighborhood centers . General merchandise stores are
allowed in eight districts; these should be the principal
tenants in retail commercial zones . Hotels are allowed in
four districts; these are the principal tenant for the CT
zone. Offices are allowed in some six districts . Staff
J would look to re-structuring, and reducing the number of
zoning districts to provide clearer direction as to where
concentrations of compatible uses should occur.
Discussion followed with comments concuring in there being
too much duplication in districts; the re-structuring of
permitted uses was long over due. For example, tourist and
highway commercial was spoken to in the plan but not shown
in the Zoning Ordinance; need was recognized to target uses
to capture sales dollar leakage; notation was made of the
disirability of increasing the node at the San Anselmo
intersection and possibly re-adjust commercial zoning from
other locations to expand this area; and discussion was held
relative to desirability of encouraging such nodes, while at
the same time protecting abutting single family areas . Con-
siderable discussion was held as to means that may be
employed to define nodes, including greenbelt separations
on larger scale projects and providing special conditions
where single family neighborhoods are affected. Diffi-
culties of planning for such buffers on existing small lot
platted land versus the opportunities afforded by larger
master planned parcels was acknowledged.
Mayor Borgeson than opened the meeting to the public.
Barbara Reiter stated that there should be a distinctive
office zone which allows only offices with high standards of
one fifteen gallon tree per five parking spaces; distinctive
neighborhood zones should be established with not more than
five to seven acres, dominated by super market type uses; a
light commercial zone containing banks, cleaners, etc. ,
would be appropriate, and C2 type zone for car dealers and
larger lot uses should be considered; public uses should not
be allowed in the commercial zones but should be a separate
category. She questioned whether houses converted to
commercial use might be required to build a commercial
building in five years. She felt that a six foot block wall
was the best separation to single family, and appropriate
set backs from single family areas to provide for some light
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and privacy; trash containers should be screened; small lot
developments might need adjustments to provide for reason-
able development.
Livia Kellerman applauded the concept of providing open
space between businesses and single family housing.
Planning should be done so neighborhoods are protected from
signs such as MacDonalds . She spoke against the recent
bowling alley/lube shop project as being inappropriate;
there' s a need to soften commercial development.
Terry Graham questioned the concept of substituting multi-
family for commercial uses by making those residents subject
to the arterial road noises . They should have the same
quality of living as other forms of residential. He
questioned whether there would be small area public hearings
on the General Plan. Dennis Lockridge responded that
considerable efforts are being made to elicit public
comments in the course of study leading to the new General
Plan, including quadrant meetings.
Mildred Copelan, respresenting the Economic Development
Committee of the Chamber of Commerce, agreed that a buffer
was appealing and that it was too bad that it had not been
planned into existing development. She' s concerned with
calling for a specific figure, i.e. , fifty foot (501 ) , which
would be inappropriate on small lot areas . Councilman
Lilley agreed that he was concerned with imposing any
arbritrary greenbelts which could lead to inverse condemna-
tion. He encouraged unique solutions which might combine
landscaped walls and site features . Mayor Borgeson
expressed concern that the north end of E1 Camino Real is
not getting better and questioned some of the wood walls on
projects which weren't esthetic. Councilwoman Mackey agreed
with Mrs . Reiter with regard to enclosing trash areas but
not with six foot walls, which she didn' t think the City
should require, in that it can create permanent shady spots .
Commissioner Luna noted that the Appearance Review Manual
covers many of Mrs . Reiter' s concerns and indicated that he
did not want to see the new General Plan lose any of the
wisdom in the rewrite.
Following discussion, Henry Engen noted that the intent of
the rewrite was to retain the accepted proven policies of
the present General Plan, while making it easier to
administer and understand plus strengthening its weak
contents, including the commercial land use section.
Councilman Shiers expressed concern of the redundancy of
businesses in the community and the need for entrepreneur-
ship to encourage business. Commissioner Waage stated that
this could be facilitated by having redundant uses
concentrate in the nodes, which would serve customer
convenience and reinforce each other. Dorothy McNiel
expressed concern whether the staff was rewritting the plan
ahead of the policy review process . Mayor Borgeson and
Henry Engen advised that much of the work to date had been
data gathering and mapping and that the whole reason for
this series of meetings was to assure that we are pointing
in the same policy direction before commencing rewrite of
the plan.
Bill Hand indicated the need for a mission statement for
each land use category. Henry Engen concurred, and
indicated that there will have to be a clear transmittal
document stating the differences between the 1980 Plan and
the proposed updated plan. Councilman Lilley noted the need
for broad brush review. He felt that the single family
standards and policies have wide-spread acceptance, with
only fine tuning needed. He concurred that consensus was
needed for considering major changes to commercial/indus-
trial policy and this is the direction staff needs. Mayor
Borgeson agreed that the single family residential was
fairly well set. Commissioner Lopez-Balbontin questioned
whether business redundancy was all bad, and felt that
there should not be excessive restrictions on uses individ-
ual business persons having the right to make investment
decisions . Barbara Rieter questioned whether a six month
moratorium on new commercial development would be appropri-
ate to allow time to get new policies in place. Council-
woman Mackey spoketo excess office construction, and
Councilman Dexter spoke to the need to recruit the right
uses in the community. Terry Graham urged that the Council
not worry about rezoning commercial land for other uses
provided its per the General Plan.
Mayor Borgeson indicated that perhaps the next agenda should
be a little less ambitious in terms of subject matter. She
stated she felt that there was a consensus on commercial
land use and that less commercial land would be appropriate
and that greenbelt buffers shoulb be encouraged, where
possible, between commercial and residential areas . It' s
the consensus that such greenbelts providing for elbow space
in the business district would be desirable, together with
breaking up the character of a narrow strip. Followed was a
discussion of the characteristics of the desired nodes being
identifiable clusters of like development in proximity to
off-ramps. Engen indicated that staff would prepare various
alternatives using the general direction given in this
meeting for review in the future by the Planning commission.
Mayor Borgeson than opened the meeting for public comment to
those who were here on other agenda items which the Council
and Commission were not able to get to this evening. John
Harris, Vice Chairman of the Parks and Recreation Commis-
sion, reported their Commission' s concern that bikeways and
trails be contained in the circulation element to provide
linkages to the park system proposed in their draft of the
Parks and Recreation Element. Livia Kellerman spoke to the
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meeting
of the night before on Highway 41 . Councilman
Shiers reported that there were many circulation issues that
needed to be addressed in the circulation element that were
brought up by the public in their testimony. Doug Lewis
inquired of the status of paper roads and Paul Sensibaugh
indicated that he was working with the lawyers and it may
take special legislation to resolve that problem. Mayor
Borgeson suggested that the next agenda cover Item 2.b,
Industrial Land Use and 2 .c, Circulation Element, with
remaining agenda items to be reviewed at a subsequent time.
The next joint meeting of the Planning Commission and
Council was tentatively set for Thursday, November 17,
1988 . (Note: Subsequently changed to Tuesday, November 29,
1988) .
Meeting adjourned at 9 : 20 p.m.
MINUTES APPROVED BY: IkK'--,A �� —1--,*
Henry Engen, Commun' y Development Director