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ATASCADERO CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
Tuesday, February 14, 1999
The regular meeting of the Atascadero City Council was called to
order by Mayor Borgeson at 7:00 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
ROLL CALLa
Lilley
Presents Councilmembers Mackey, Shiers, Dexter, 44ae4ee-f and Mayor
Borgeson
Staff Presents Henry Engen, Community Development Director; Paul
Sensibaugh, Public Works Directorl Mark Joseph,
Administrative Services Director; Jeff Jorgensen,
City Attorney; Andy Takata, Parks and Recreation
Director; Boyd Sharita, City Clerk; Bud McHale,
Police Chief and Mike Hicks, Fire Chief.
Mayor Borgeson presented Mike Lara with a plaque for his past
service as a Parks and Recreation Commissioner.
Mayor Borgeson introduced Andy Takata the new Parks and
Recreation Director.
COMMITTEE REPORTSs
CITY/SCHOOL COMMITTEE_
Councilman Lilley said that minutes have been provided to the
Council regarding a meeting that had been held. He reported that
discussion had been undertaken as far as joint cooperation for
additional recreational facilities that he felt were productive
and holds potential for the City as well as the school district.
NORTH COAST TRANSITS
Councilman Dexter said that no meeting of North Coast has been
held but he was involved in the Central CoastRapid ,Transit
dealing with the problem of transportation for students at
Cuesta. Earlier service for students is needed. Also positive
and negative incentives were discussed to get more ridership. A
meeting Is scheduled for Wednesday, February 15 in San Luis
Obispo and will be working on additional areas of transportation.'
SAN LUIS OBISPO AREA COORDINATING COUNCILS
Mayor Borgeson reported that reports are now given to the
Councilmembers. She attended the February meeting and they
adopted the 1988 update of the regional transportation plan that
had been discussed at council 's last meeting. Specifically
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discussed was the route 101 corridor study identifying
jdeficiencies on Highway 101 and many of the interchanges. It
also identified significant funding shortfalls in implementing
our plan and also a performance audit contract was awarded. She
believes the notice that is sent out regarding the meetings is
very important.
TRAFFIC COMMITTEE:
Councilwoman Mackey reported that there are a couple of items on
the agenda tonight. One of them is the four way stop at
Atascadero Avenue and Santa Ynez. The other one is no parking
beyond the High School on San Marcos.
SOLID/HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEEe
Councilwoman Mackey stated there are two separate commissions
now. There are two meetings the first Thursday of the month.
One ,at 9 a.m. and the other one at 1x30 p.m. In the hazardous,
household waste proposal it is hoped that four times a year a
special collection can be conducted for household hazardous
waste. To do this it is going to take a lot of publicity and
money. The collection will have to be hauled to Kettleman and it
will cost about $260,000 to do the whole Job for a year. The
question on how to fund it is going to have to be decided by this
committee. They met with the garbage company last week and they
will be coming back with some ideas and proposals. The Waste
Management Commission met and it was brought out that Atascadero
seems to be the only city that does not have mandatory
collection. The County is getting into forcing mandatory
collection on the urbanized and unincorporated areas. They hope
to start with the Los Osos area making it mandatory. The Waste
Commission hopes to increase the participation in recycling to
25% of the waste stream within two years. It Is now
approximately 6%.
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMISSIONa
Councilman Dexter stated that he had attended a three hour
orientation session. There will be a meeting on Thursday evening
and he ,will report more at the next council meeting.
FINANCE COMMITTEE$
Councilman Shiers stated the meeting that was held was covered at
the mid-year budget meeting.
DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEEa
Councilwoman Mackey said a meeting was held last week. Everybody
who is on the <Downtown Steering Committee attended along with
several staff people. She believes it is going to be a very good
committee and they will meet again on the 21st.
COMMUNITY FORUMe
John McNeil , 9765 Sierra Vista, stated that we have had many
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grading violations in the City of Atascadero over the past
several years. He said he had listened to the Board of
Supervisors of the County and they have had the same experience.
One of the items on the consent agenda was taken off by
Supervisor Blakely that pertained to grading violations. They
discussed the problem and their recommendation was to their staff
was their ordinance which apparently had not been enforceable
should be looked at and revised and brought back to the Hoard of
Supervisors for adoption, an ordinance that would make grading
violations subject to be enforced and that the parties would
correct their violations. He believes that we have had the same
experience here and that council should direct staff to follow
this. We could benefit by the County's experience. Mayor
Borgeson asked Henry Engen to keep up with what the County Board
of Supervisors is doing regarding this matter and give the
council an update.
Terril Graham, 6208 Conejo Rd. , spoke regarding the police
facility and other financing that the city is about to undertake.
He read a letter to the editor from the Atascadero News published
in 1988. Everything in this letter has either come true or are
going to come true in the immediate future. He encourages
Council to not take any actions in financing the police facility
which will further indebt every citizen of the community.
A. CONSENT CALENDARa
1 . January 24, 1989 City Council Minutes
2. January 28, 1989 Joint City Council/Planning
Commission Minutes
3. January 31, 1989 City Council Study Session Minutes
4. Award of Bid for Wastewater Treatment Plant Metal
Building and Slab to NortonConstruction
5. Award of Bid for Dial-A-Ride Contract to Community
Transit Services
6. RESOLUTION NO. 8-89 - Establishment of a 4-way Stop
Intersection, Atascadero Ave. at Santa Ynez
7. RESOLUTION NO. 9-89 & 10-89 Designating No Parking Zones
on Both Sides of Navarette, from San Andres to 200' Westerly
8. Request for Time Extension on Tentative Parcel Map 29-86
9990 El Camino Real
9. Acceptance of Final Parcel Map 34-87 - 8480 Santa Fe Road
10. Award of Contract for City Hall Heating, Ventilating b Air-
Conditioning to R. P. Richards Construction Co.
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11 . City Manager Absence from March 14, 1989 Council Meeting
12. RESOLUTION NO. 11-89 - Adopting Mid-Year Adjustments to Bud-
get Appropriations ( 1988-89)
13. Adopt Five Year Capital Improvement Plan Dated February 9,
1989.
MOTIONS By Councilman Dexter, seconded by Councilwoman Mackey
to approve Consent Items A 1-13. -Passed unanimously by
roll call vote.
B. HEARINGS/APPEARANCESa
1. Atascadero Roads - Presentation by Michael Petersen, Counsel
for Wells Fargo
Jeff Jorgensen, City Attorney, introduced Michael Petersen,
Counsel for Wells Fargo Bank. Mr. Petersen discussed the
material that was included in the agenda packet.
Council discussion followed.
Bob Nimmo, 737$ Bella Vista Rd. , stated that any legislation
introduced that would absolve, the city of liability, but not
absolve adjacent property owners would probably never make
it through the legislative process.
Buz Hinkley, 8400 San Gregorio, asked Council if Wells Fargo
Bank does not own the roads, but is only the trustee, then
who owns the roads.
City Attorney Jorgensen said this is a very complex problem.
Wells Fargo has technical legal title to the roadways.
Wells Fargo has no interest in asserting any ownership
interest in them.
Mr. Hinkley added that If there is going to be legislation
that would reflect some minimizing or taking away the
liability to the City or if a few roads are being
considered, he thinks that the considerations should be
taken into all of the goads in the City of Atascadero that
are not now under City Jurisdiction as well as all the
liability of all the adjoining property owners.
Jeff Jorgensen said he thinks it is going to take a
considerable amount of time and study to resolve. There is
a great deal of information that the City needs in order to
make an informed decision on this matter. The affect which
a transfer might have on the City's insurance, we need a
good understanding of what the road conditions are on these
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roads, some approximation of what Wells Fargo intends to
transfer to us. These are things we need to explore if the
Council authorizes us to begin preliminary discussions.
With respect to legislation he thinks it would be helpful to
approach the state legislature if for no other reason they
may come up with reasons why special legislation won't work
or they may have other approaches to the problem that may be
helpful . He encourages Council to at least begin
discussions with our representatives. With that in mind, he
recommends that the Council authorizes the staff and the
Council road sub-committee to begin preliminary discussions
with Wells Fargo.
Mayor Borgeson said that will be the direction of the
Council . The sub-committee will be Councilman Lilley and
herself.
APPEAL BY DON MESSER OF DENIAL OF GRADING PERMIT (5805
CAPISTRANO - HOTEL PARK)
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Mayor Borgeson stated that she had just received a letter
jfrom Glen Lewis stating "please be advised that Hotel Park
does hereby with draw the appeal scheduled for February 14,
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MOTIONS By Councilman Lilley, seconded by Councilman
j Dexter to accept Hotel Parks withdrawal of their
appeal . Passed unanimously.
Henry Engen, Community Development Director, stated that
Council has a copy of the letter that had been submitted to
Mr. Steven Sylvester following several meetings held with
the appellant, his attorney .and engineer this afternoon.
What has occurred is that there was an error on the City's
arborist 's estimation on the value of the trees which
received a lot of publicity. He has since indicated that it
should have been $139,000. Subsequently the appellant had
a tree consultant come up with a figure of $32,486 as his
estimate of the value. The 8 trees which staff felt would
be taken as part the grading permit. Based on that change
in evaluation and consultation with their arborist as to
whether or not they could protect those trees if they went
back to the original conditions of, the precise plan, the
applicant has withdrawn their appeal and proposed to proceed
under the original conditions with measures to be taken to
protect those 8 trees. Included in the appeal process
questioned was condition number 17 of the original precise
plan whichhas been identified in the staff report to
council is a "catch 22" condition. It indicates that " the
road abandonment (portion of Capistrano remaining after
realignment) shall be recorded prior to issuance of permits
for phase I . However, they need to gat an encroachment
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permit and grading permits to transfer fill from the site
to rebuild the road and move it toward Atascadero Creek in
order to meet the conditions of precise plan. In the letter
to them this afternoon we indicated that the affect of a
withdrawal of an appeal would be to put them back to the
point they were last December when Mr. Engen denied the
grading permit. Regarding the question of condition No. 17
we felt that it was a reasonable approach to initially Just
offer to dedicate which would be recorded and then go
through the processes and then abandon the street relocated
on the new alignment. We also note that given the language
that is in the condition - in error or not - that we think
that should take approval by council that this is a
reasonable interpretation of that condition or referral to
the Plan Commission to revise it.
Council discussion followed.
Mr. Steve Sylvester, North Coast Engineering, spoke on
behalf of Hotel Park Assoc. The basis of the appeal was the
information contained in the Jack Hrazeal report regarding
evaluation of the trees which put the project in the
position where it was not feasible to even consider bonding
for $1 .3 million dollars worth of trees. The only option
they saw at that point in time was to request additional
tree removals because of the economics that were involved.
Now that they are aware that there was a 1,000% error in the
evaluation of the trees, that changes the whole attitude
that they have toward the treatment of the trees at the
site. They have worked to be reasonable with staff
throughout the entire process of the approval of the precise
plan for this project. In doing so they have had their
arborist working with the City's arborist trying to come to
some conclusions about modifications to the tree protection
plan accompanied by the appropriate security to maintain
those trees. They are no longer asking for removals of any
additional tress. They feel they have a reasonable solution
for the benefit of the property owner as well as the city
sand the concerns that staff has raised. They will continue
to work with them on that basis. Condition 17 was included
in the appealbyconvenience so that it could be worked out
at the same time that you discuss the situation with the
grading plan. The resolution of condition 17 is very
straight forward, in fact they have already come to an
agreement as to what the intent of that condition was and
they are in a position that they have a condition that they
cannot comply with. They must reconstruct the road, they
must move the road over before you can abandon it, and in
order to do that they have to have permits to do so. The
plans for those improvements have all been prepared and
submitted through several plan checks. They are awaiting
ground breaking as soon as resolution of the tree protection
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Issue is resolved. Regarding treatment of the site grading,
they have had lengthy discussions with staff regarding how
they treat the site, as far as doing complete site grading,
based on their discussions with staff they have submitted
complete interim grading plans, temporary sedimentation and
erosion control plans and a grading treatment on the areas
outside of phase I construction would be compatible should
anything happen to this project, should phases II through IV
not be completed. They have been through a 2 1/2 month
delay, a very costly delay of this project based on the
information that was contained in the Brazeal report. They
feel that it is the City's obligation to correct the
problems with condition 17. It was a staff condition and
they have an agreement with staff as to the resolution of
that condition. They can hardly tolerate another cycle of
planning commission review back to city council review for a
condition that was written incorrectly in the first place
and one of which we can all understand what the intention
is. The project is going to pay for the relocation and
reconstruction of Capistrano. The project is going to build
the approach to Lewis Avenue Bridge and rebuild several
portions of South Mall extension. They are trying to move
ahead with the project and can not do that without the
appropriate permits and the resolution of that condition.
Council discussion followed.
Joseph Grisanti, said he felt it was unconstitutional to put
these values on the trees. This is throwing our money away
and he feels that issues coming before Council should be
looked at. The bonding of oak trees is ridiculous.
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Consensus of the Council was to have staff bring back a
report on Condition #17 at the next council meeting.
MAYOR HORGESON ASKED FOR A 10 MINUTE RECESS AT 8a35. MEETING
RECONVENED AT Sa45 P.M.
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C. UNFINISHED BUSINESSa
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1. ANTI-LOITERING ORDINANCE - PROPOSAL
A. Ordinance No. 189 - Adding Chapter 6 to Title 5 of the
Atascadero Municipal Code relating to loitering by
minors during certain hours
Council comments followed.
Doug Lewis spoke at the last meeting in opposition to
the ordinance regretting that this type of measure was
the first effort made to solve the problems. He had
hoped to make a recommendation to the council regarding
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a state-wide program that is being put into place. It
is under the task force to establish self esteem and
personal responsibility and social responsibility. He
had made a number of calls since the last hearing but
was unable to get enough of the local task force to
function at this level because they are only making
their first meeting tomorrow morning, _which is
regrettable and the state level people are trying to
let the county task forces function first so his
efforts to have a recommendation for council as to an
alternative cannot be done at this time. He regrets
that Council is making this ordinance a law.
Betsy Outland spoke in favor of this anti-loitering law
jif the Police Department will enforce it as they are
supposed to.
Larry Walsh stated he believed 11isa reasonable hour
on a week day, but 11 on the weekend may not be
reasonable. He still thinks more money should be put
into recreation as far as these young people are
concerned.
Jerry Clay said he is concerned about the weekend hour
of 11 being too early. He asked Chief McHale if a
teenager was going from one place to another would he
be stopped.
Chief McHale responded that police officers are not
mind readers, they are first going to have to inquire
of the young person as to what that person is doing.
If it appears that it is a legitimate activity, then
the person will be allowed to go on his/her way. If a
young person is waiting for a ride from parents in
front of the theatre there is nothing wrong with that.
Discretion must be exercised by our police officers
Just as it is in all criminal investigations or field
interviews.
Mr. Clay asked in regard to a moving vehicle are the
police Just going to pull over a vehicle? How are you
going to handle that? Chief McHale answered that would
depend on the number of times the young, person was seen
circulating. If an officer was in a particular
location and observed the same driver make a few passes
then there is a good opportunity depending upon
priorities during the shift, that the person might be
stopped and at least questioned. They might be asked
"where are you going, where have you been, and how soon
do you think you are going to get home"?
MOTIONS Made by Councilman Lilley, seconded by Councilwoman
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Mackey to adopt Ordinance No. 189 and review this
ordinance in 6 months. Passed unanimously by roll call
vote.
2. General Plan Amendment 18-89 Zone Change 1-89 - 5575
Capistrano/8508 El Camino Real/9801 West Front Road
A. Ordinance No. 187 - Amending Maps 6 & 19 of the
Official Zoning Maps by rezoning certain real
properties from their current designations to "P"
(Public) (ZC 1-89a City of Atascadero)
Staff report was given by Henry Engen, Community
Development Director.
There was no public comment
MOTIONm Made by Councilwoman Mackey, seconded by Councilman
Shiers, for adoption of Ordinance No. 187. Passed
unanimously by roll call voted.
3. Request for Partial Abandonment - Sewer Easement (Century
Plaza Resolution No. 7-89
Staff report was given by Paul Sensibaugh, Public Works
Director.
There was no public comment.
MOTIONa Made by Councilman Shiers, seconded by Councilman
Dexter, to adopt Resolution 7-89. Passed unanimously
by roll call vote.
4. Adoption of Changes to Ordinances *135, the City's
"Emergency Organization Ordinance"
A. Ordinance No. 190 Amending Chapter 4 of Title 4 of
the Atascadero Municipal Code relating to Emergency
Organizations and Functions.
There were no public or council comments.
MOTIONa Made by Councilwoman Mackey, seconded by Councilman
Lilley to adopt Ordinance No. 190. Passed unanimously
by roll call vote.
D. NEW BUSINESS
1 . State Hospital Annexation
Henry Engen, Community Development Director gave the staff
report.
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Consensus of the Council was to request staff analysis of
pros and cons including the costs, policing, impacts, etc.
E. INDIVIDUAL DETERMINATION/AND OR ACTIONi
1. City Council
Councilwoman Mackey asked that when people write to the
council , could they please include their addresses and/or
phone numbers so Council may respond.
Mayor Borgeson asked about the possibility of having sound
absorbing material installed near the rear doors.
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9x17 P.M.
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