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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting
November 20, 2001— 7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
Vice Chairman Bentz called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and Commissioner Fonzi led the
Pledge of Allegiance.
Commissioner O'Malley announced that he had a conflict of interest with Agenda Item #8 and
would be stepping down from that item.
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Blaser, Fonzi, Kelley, Norton, O'Malley and Vice Chairman
Bentz
Absent: Chairman Eddings
Staff: Community Development Director Warren Frace, Associate Planner Jamie Kirk
and Recording Secretary Grace Pucci
PUBLIC COMMENT
None
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. APPROVAL OF REVISED MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING ON OCTOBER 16, 2001.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING ON NOVEMBER 6, 2001.
3. TIME EXTENSION: CONSIDERATION OF A ONE-YEAR TIME EXTENSION
FOR APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT # 96008.
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RECOMMENDATION:
Staff Recommends:
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The Planning Commission adopt Resolution PC 2001-062, thereby approving a one-year
time extension of CUP #96008 in compliance with Section 9-2.118 of the Zoning
Ordinance.
Commissioner Kelley pulled Consent Calendar Item #3 for discussion.
MOTION: By Commissioner Kelley and seconded by Commissioner Norton to approve
Consent Calendar Items # 1 and 2.
AYES: Commissioners Kelley, Norton, O'Malley, Fonzi, Blaser and Vice Chairman
Bentz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
Motion passed 6:0 by a roll -call vote.
Community Development Director Warren Frace provided the staff report on Consent Calendar
Item #3 and answered questions of the Commission.
MOTION: By Commissioner Kelley and seconded by Commissioner Fonzi to approve
Consent Calendar Item #3.
AYES: Commissioners Kelley, Fonzi, Norton, Blaser, O'Malley and Vice Chairman
Bentz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
Motion passed 6:0 by a roll -call vote.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. PROJECT TITLE: Tentative Parcel Map 2001-0024: 9635 Santa Lucia Road
Applicant:
Paul and Florence Bissonnette, 12916 Camino Del Valle, Poway, CA 92064
Project
9635 Santa Lucia Road, Atascadero, CA 93422, San Luis Obispo County APN 054-111-003
Location:
Project
Proposed subdivision of an existing 7.06 acre lot into two parcels 3.34 acres and 3.72 acres
each. The site is currently developed with a single-family residence, a guesthouse and a barn.
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Description:
The existing improvements will be confined to one lot allowing the new lot to be developed
with a single-family residential use. The property will be served by an on-site sewer system
(septic) and water is available from Atascadero Mutual Water Company. The site is zoned
Residential Suburban with a minimum lot size of 3.31 acres based on the RS minimum lot
size calculations. General Plan Designation: Suburban Single Family; Zoning District:
Residential Suburban
Environmental
PROPOSED MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARA TION 2001-040: Based on the
Determination
findings of the initial study, the Community Development Department recommends that
the Planning Commission find that no significant harm would come to the environment
from approval of this Tentative Parcel Map, with the incorporation of the proposed
mitigation measures. The proposed Mitigated Negative Declaration is available for
public review through November 20, 2001 at 6500 Palma Avenue, Community
Development Department, Room 104, from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00p.m., Monday through
Friday.
Staff
The Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. PC 2001-063, certifying the proposed
Mitigated Negative Declaration 2001-0040 and approving Tentative Parcel Map 2001-0024,
Recommendation:
a request to subdivide a 7.06 -acre lot into two parcels; 3.34 -acres (gross) and 3.62 -acres
(gross) each, based on findings and subject to conditions.
Associate Planner Jamie Kirk provided the staff report and answered questions of the
Commission.
Commissioner O'Malley inquired if it was possible to work with the applicant to allow the
retention of the existing barn without imposing other requirements. Associate Planner Kirk
responded that staff had given much consideration to how best to create a conforming situation
with the existing improvements on the site, and the three options under Condition of Approval
#11 were staff's attempt at a compromise. Ms. Kirk indicated that staff is willing to work with
the applicant, but their concern was in creating an entitlement to a subdivision and then creating
a non -conforming situation by having a stand-alone accessory use. This would be precedent
setting for other vacant lots in the residential zoning districts.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Ken Wilson, Wilson Land Surveys, applicant's representative, stated that he appreciated the
excellent staff report and its consistency. The applicant is concerned with the requirement for
underground utilities due to a creek that runs through the property, which might make digging
and placing the utilities difficult. As this is a rural site and there are other overhead utility
services in the area, the applicant would like to be allowed to go overhead if possible.
Linda Camon, 9635 Santa Lucia Road, daughter of the applicant stated that at this time there is
one family living on the property, (Mrs. Camon and her husband). The larger of the two
residences will be made into a permanent residence and the guest house will be used by her two
grown boys who will have bedrooms there; Mrs. Camon has no intention of renting the guest
house. Mrs. Camon's parents, the applicants, will be moving to Atascadero and building on the
adjoining property.
Commissioner Kelley asked about extensions on the time line for Condition of Approval #11.
Associate Planner Kirk stated that the map has an initial time period of two years, so the
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applicant would have two years and six months, after which the applicant can request additional
extensions up to five years on the map. As long as the map is alive, the condition sits with it. At
two years the applicant would have to secure the bond and then would have six months unless
additional time extensions were requested.
Paul Bissonnette, 12916 Camino Del Valle, Poway, California, applicant, stated that he wishes to
sell his residence in Poway and build a home in Atascadero. He expressed confusion with the
three options for Condition of Approval #11; he has just spent $45,000 on the barn and does not
want to remove it. Associate Planner Kirk explained the options to the applicant. Regarding
under grounding the utilities, there is a telephone pole within 100 feet of the proposed residence
and Mr. Bissonnette felt it would be more advisable to under ground the utilities from the pole to
the house rather than dig over 500 feet from Santa Lucia and under the creek.
Vice Chairman Bentz asked if there were legal issues with under grounding the utilities through
the creek as opposed to the street side. Ms. Kirk stated that it was her understanding that there
are boring apparatuses that can drill well beneath the water table of the creek. The subdivision
has been conditioned that all new utilities be under ground, however staff does not have an issue
with under grounding from existing poles on the site as long as there are adequate easements.
Water and gas must still be brought to the site from Santa Lucia.
Commissioner Norton inquired whether the existing driveway to the house would be shared. Mr.
Bissonnette stated that an easement is being proposed across parcel one to facilitate parcel two.
Parcel two would own the largest part of the driveway.
Commissioner Blaser asked if there was a maintenance agreement attached to the easement. Mr.
Bissonnette stated that the easement has not been written yet. Associate Planner Kirk indicated
that the project has not been conditioned with a maintenance agreement, however the
Commission can require one.
Vice Chairman Bentz closed the Public Comment period.
Commissioner Kelley suggested that the non -conforming portions of the guesthouse be brought
up to code prior to submission of the application for the lot split.
Commissioner Fonzi suggested that there be one meter for gas and one for electric on the
existing residences in order to prohibit re -conversion to a guesthouse in the future. Ms. Kirk
stated that this would be possible and could be conditioned by the Commission.
Commissioner O'Malley, asked for clarification on the meter for the second residence. Ms. Kirk
suggested that the Motion be amended to read, "There shall not be separate meters located at the
guest house." Current zoning does not permit a separate meter for a guesthouse.
MOTION: By Commissioner O'Malley and seconded by Commissioner Fonzi to amend the
current proposal to include a maintenance agreement on the proposed driveway
specifying how that maintenance would be paid between the potentially two
separate parcel owners and to eliminate one of the electric meters.
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Commissioner O'Malley withdrew his Motion.
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Commissioner Kelley stated that he could support the electricity coming off of the existing pole.
He feels the utilities could be run in the river crossing bridge because it would be a major project
to run them under the creek.
Associate Planner Kirk indicated that it would be acceptable to staff to install the utilities in the
creek crossing in such a way that would not be detrimental to the creek. The subdivision map act
prohibits the installation of new poles.
MOTION: By Commissioner Norton and seconded by Commissioner Kelley to adopt
Resolution No. PC 2001-063, certifying the proposed Mitigated Negative
Declaration 2001-0040 and approving Tentative Parcel Map 2001-0024, a request
to subdivide a 7.06 -acre lot into two parcels; 3.34 -acres (gross) and 3.62 -acres
(gross) each, based on findings and subject to conditions with the inclusion of a
maintenance agreement for the two parcels.
AYES: Commissioners Norton, Kelley, O'Malley, Blaser, Fonzi and Vice Chairman
Bentz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
Motion passed 6:0 by a roll -call vote.
5. PROJECT TITLE: TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 2001-0023: 7600 Morro Road
Applicant:
Kenneth and Gabriele Wilson, 7400 Morro Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
Project
7600 Morro Road, Atascadero, CA 93422, San Luis Obispo County, APN 031-153-005
Location:
Project
A proposed subdivision of an existing 0.60 acre lot into two parcels of 0.30 acres each. The
Description:
site is currently undeveloped but approved for a commercial office -building complex. The
lots will be serve by full City services, street frontage improvements along Morro Road will
be required and a single shared access driveway and parking lot will be provided on site.
The site is zoned CP/PD-3 (Commercial Profession) with no minimum lot size.
General Plan Designation: Office
Environmental
PROPOSED RECERTIFICATION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION
2001-0033: Based on the findings of the initial study, the Community Development
Determination
Department recommends that the Planning Commission find that no significant harm
would come to the environment from approval of this Tentative Parcel Map, with the
incorporation of the proposed mitigation measures. The Certified Mitigated Negative
Declaration is available for public review through November 20, 2001 at 6500 Palma
Avenue, Community Development Department, Room 104, from 8:00 a.m. to 5: 00 p.m.,
Monday through Friday.
Staff
The Planning Commission adopt Resolution No. PC 2001-065, re -certifying Mitigated
Negative Declaration 2001-0031 with an addendum and approving Tentative Parcel Map
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Recommendation: 2001-0023 based on findings and subject to conditions.
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Community Development Director Frace provided the staff report and answered questions of the
Commission.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Ken Wilson, Wilson Surveys, Applicant, expressed appreciation for the staff report and was
available to answer questions of the Commission.
Vice Chairman Bentz closed the Public Comment period.
MOTION: By Commissioner Kelley and seconded by Commissioner Fonzi to adopt
Resolution No. PC 2001-065, re -certifying Mitigated Negative Declaration 2001-
0031 with an addendum and approving Tentative Parcel Map 2001-0023 based on
findings and subject to conditions.
AYES: Commissioners Kelley, Fonzi, Blaser, O'Malley, Norton and Vice Chairman
Bentz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
Motion passed 6:0 by a roll -call vote.
6. TPM 2001-0022: 7500 San Palo Road — This item has been continued to the regular
meeting of December 4, 2001.
MOTION: By Commissioner Fonzi and seconded by Commissioner Norton to continue
Public Hearing Item #6 to December 4, 2001.
AYES: Commissioners Fonzi, Norton, O'Malley, Kelley, Blaser and Vice Chairman
Bentz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
Motion passed 6:0 by a roll -call vote.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF REPORTS
7. TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, TRP 2001-0015: (Traffic Way widening south of
Chico Road / Midland Pacific.
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Request to remove one 44 -inch native Valley Oak tree that is conflicting with the
widening of Traffic Way. The street widening is a required off-site improvement for The
Lakes subdivision project.
Staff Recommends:
The Planning Commission considers the removal of the native oak trees subject to the
mitigation as required by the Atascadero Native Tree Ordinance and specified within the
project conditions.
Community Development Director Frace provided the staff report and answered questions of the
Commission.
Commissioner Kelley suggested that the road could be balanced out by taking two feet off of the
high points and fill two feet in on the low points. He is concerned about raising the road by four
feet. Commissioner Kelley stated that he has driven this road many times and has never had a
problem with it and if the road is streamlined it may cause additional problems by cars going too
fast. Commissioner Kelley referred to the General Plan and its mission to keep the rural
atmosphere of Atascadero; he feels the tree should be protected.
Commissioner Norton agreed that the rural nature of the community is important. She would
like to see a compromise and questioned what the alternatives to this plan might be.
Director Frace stated that the City Engineer and Planning staff met with the project engineers
and looked at several alternatives as their primary approach was to do everything possible to
save the tree. The option of reducing the dip by increasing a cut at both ends was looked at but
dismissed because the necessary cuts would require right of way dedications on property not
owned by the City and this was deemed to be too expensive. This appears to be the only option
available for the funding the developer is required to pay on the project. The condition reads that
the developer is to pay to the City $122,000 or do the improvements. Once the improvements go
above that figure they will not do the project and it will most likely never be done. At this point
the developer is willing to cooperate by building out this segment, but the only way to do it
based on the way this project lays out is to remove the tree.
Commissioner Fonzi asked whether it would be possible to condition the removal of the tree so
that the developer would put replacement trees along Traffic Way rather than down in the
development. Director Frace stated that this was the intention for the replacement trees.
Commissioner O'Malley expressed concern regarding the number of projects along Traffic Way
that have come back to the Commission for review. He is inclined to preserve the tree and the
natural area surrounding it and wondered if the amount the contractor must pay for
improvements could be used in some other way to improve another area of Traffic Way, leaving
this area as it is. Director Frace stated that this comes down to an issue of safety. Traffic speed
and number of trips will most likely increase on this segment of Traffic Way and the City
Engineer must consider public safety and balance that as much as possible with other issues.
Generally the City Engineer will support tree preservation, however in this case, public safety
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concerns outweigh the tree issue. Commissioner O'Malley referred to the lack of consistency in
that Portola Road was not improved significantly as the improvement would increase speed.
Director Frace indicated that this had to do with the hierarchy of streets within the circulation
element of the General Plan; Traffic Way is a minor arterial, Portola Road is not.
Commissioner Blaser asked if the bike path contributed to the need to remove the tree. Director
Frace stated that the bike path is designed to have no impact on the tree; it is rather the road itself
that impacts the tree. The issue will be if the tree remains the road will in all probability not be
built and if it is not, the bike path will not be built.
Commissioner Kelley suggested that this issue be put on hold to have the City Engineer further
address the issues. He feels there should be some way to save the tree.
Commissioner Norton agreed and thinks the City Engineer should address the Commission. She
suggested stop signs or other measures could be taken to manage the dip. Director Frace stated
that a stop sign would not be placed in the middle of a free flowing block so the concern
regarding higher speeds would remain.
Commissioner O'Malley felt the applicant could be asked to put in the bike path and not have to
do a significant amount of roadwork. He too would like to explore more options before making
a decision on this request.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Joan O'Keefe, 9985 Old Morro Road East, referring to Consent Calendar Item #3, asked for
examples of how environmental requirements are now more stringent. Regarding the tree
removal request, she strongly sides with the City Engineer on the issue of safety. If replanting is
to be done, it is necessary to address the survival rate and the issues of watering the trees, gopher
baskets, protection from deer, etc. Regarding to the White Oak, there is no nursery in the area
that sells locally grown White Oak, and she made the point that the species of tree replanted if
the tree is removed will not be the same and therefore, it is not a true mitigation. Mrs. O'Keefe
stated that while she loves the trees she feels people speed on Traffic Way, and with the increase
in density and traffic, safety issues must be considered.
Ken Wilson, Wilson Land Surveys, engineer on the project, spoke on why this design was
chosen. He indicated that this tree was also being removed to save another tree. Additionally,
speed and traffic presented a concern and incorporated in this design are slight curves to the
roadway to help reduce speed and promote a rural atmosphere.
Vice Chairman Bentz closed the Public Comment period.
Commissioner Norton stated that she could not making Finding #5, and suggested sending this
back to staff to further look at safety issues as well as considering the Safe Schools issue.
Commissioner Kelley agreed that the item should be brought back at a future date to look at
traffic safety issues.
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MOTION: By Commissioner Blaser and seconded by Commissioner Kelley to continue the
hearing to December 4th, referring the item back to staff for additional information
or analysis on safety and alternatives as discussed above.
Commissioner Fonzi requested input from staff at the December 4th meeting as to placement of
replacement trees if the tree removal request is granted, as well as the type of trees to be used as
the best mitigation for a White Oak tree.
Commissioner Kelley requested a representative of Midland Pacific attend the December 4th
meeting. Director Frace stated that the City Engineer would attend the meeting and Midland
Pacific will be contacted for their attendance as well.
Vice Chairman Bentz asked that a representative of the Police Department attend the meeting.
AYES: Commissioners Blaser, Kelley, Norton, O'Malley, Fonzi and Vice Chairman
Bentz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
Motion passed 6:0 by a roll -call vote.
8. GENERAL PLAN CONFORMITY REPORT
Associate Planner Jamie Kirk provided the staff report and answered questions of the
Commission.
MOTION: By Commissioner Norton and seconded by Commissioner Blaser to adopt
Resolution PC 2001-0067, recommending the City Council find that the
disposition of City property involved in LLA 2001-0033 is consistent with the
City's General Plan as required by California Government Code Section 65402.
AYES: Commissioners Norton, Blaser, Kelley, Fonzi and Vice Chairman Bentz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner O'Malley
Motion passed 5:0 by a roll -call vote.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS & REPORTS
Commissioner O'Malley requested follow up on sidewalk options on the Shores project.
Director Frace stated that within the 10 foot right of way there is an alternative option for the
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sidewalks. A detached sidewalk behind a parkway planter strip, which in turn is behind the curb,
was presented. It was felt that this configuration was more in character with the surrounding
neighborhoods.
Commissioner O'Malley thanked staff for their extra efforts on this issue. He felt this was a nice
alternative and requested a future presentation to the Commission on sidewalk options.
Commissioner Fonzi stated that she liked the idea of alternative sidewalks. She was concerned
with how pedestrians would navigate in front of the bridge once the end of the sidewalk was
reached. Director Frace indicated that the City Engineer is looking at how to cross pedestrians
before an expansion of the bridge, and what the possibilities are of including additional
pedestrian facilities across the creek.
Vice Chairman Bentz indicated that he would like consideration given to meandering -style
sidewalks.
Commissioner Kelley asked if there were alternate designs for curb and gutters. Director Frace
stated that there are many configurations for the curb and gutter including rolled curbs to
eliminate the hard edge.
Commissioner Norton felt this was a nice option and if the Commission were to set a precedent,
she would like to see other options as well.
Vice Chairman Bentz asked Director Frace to include the Commissions comments on this issue
in his report to the Council.
Commissioner Fonzi expressed interest in presenting the idea that trees be planted between the
sidewalk and the street.
Commissioner O'Malley asked when the report on the sewer plan would be presented. Director
Frace stated that the City Engineer and a representative from the Waste Water Department will
be making a presentation at the Planning Commission meeting on December 4th, at which time
the Commission could request a time for a tour of the facility.
Commissioner Fonzi asked to receive something in writing about sewer capacity and build out.
Additionally, she would like a presentation on the Safe Routes to School program.
Commissioner O'Malley asked about the issue of tree signs and tree ordinance issues. Director
Frace stated that regarding the tree signs, the Commission has the option of adding that as a
specific condition on any project they see fit. Developing tree signs as a standard would require
some changes to the Tree Ordinance. Presently, Director Frace does not have the additional staff
required to work on a presentation on the Tree Ordinance. He is hoping to have the Department
completely staffed in the next couple of months, and early next year they may be able to prepare
a staff report so the Commission can look at the issues related to the Tree Ordinance.
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ADJOURNMENT
Regular Meeting November 20, 2001
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Vice Chairman Bentz adjourned the meeting at 8:47 p.m. to the next regularly scheduled meeting
on December 4, 2001.
MEETING RECORDED AND MINUTES PREPARED BY:
Grace Pucci, Recording Secretary
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